Not your fault/Its normal to be a bit nave about a new city. And lived places where the only safe way home after dark was a taxi. Now I live in a really small town. He is planning to stay at his job for a while, so we are in the early stages of looking to move. His commute is 2 hours +. It doesnt have to be. I moved out of state and ended up driving anywhere from 35 90 minutes one way to work, depending on traffic, what time I left, and if there was a fender bender on the one highway I could feasibly take to my job. I meant to say cycling is more* tolerable than driving. My employer pays for my bus pass and my current salary is decent, which takes away from the sting of this commute. The Amtrak trains sometimes have the more convenient schedules, charging outlets, and fewer stops, but they cost a bit more. My biggest concern with many miles is what happens when your car is in the shop. My 10.5 mile commute from Oakland to SF is faster than the 4 mile commute on Muni from my bfs place to my office. Ive lived in Los Angeles all my life, and long commutes are a thing here. So cal born and raised here! I hope you find a great job that is closer. We have to take the dreaded 91, but since theres 3+ people in the van, we get to use the 91 toll lanes for free. I think you should look for something closer but in the meantime, consider the blue + red line 1-2x/week. London based and an hour door to door is my rule of thumb. My 12-mile commute takes an hour. I always changed the subject when people got bug-eyed about my commute time or complained about an accident. I have a friend whose BF was attacked and nearly beaten to death on one of the metro rail lines, but it was awhile back and I dont remember which one. Do you have any ability to move closer to work? Not entirely true- it depends on where in the Bay Area- and if you can afford to be 30 min away- I was in Solano County- and wages are on the low side- it would have made more financial sense for me to look in Contra Costa- but that commute was 45-90 minutes one way depending on the way the Traffic flowed (and I wouldnt have made nearly enough to move to Co-Co county). In bed by 9-10PM Not when I was in my best shape ever (which was pretty darn good) and certainly not now. As for Cali traffic, I experienced it when I went there for a business trip a couple years ago. Audiobooks are common. I walk home from work when its nice out (prefer not to walk there so I dont end up all sweaty when I arrive at the office if its hot out) and it is so wonderful and soothing. 1000 cars can go 60 mph just as well as 10 cars as long as theyre all going the same speed. I live in the Chicagoland area, although I dont work in the city. 1) Public transportation: I would drive to a bus stop park-n-ride, then bus in Life is too short. Ill be sure to check those out! Of course, thats me living out in a rural area, heading into the state capital and downtown. My job is 6.2 miles away from home exactly a 10K. Many people commute 2hrs+ every day. My current commute is now 15 minutes and my husbands is 5 minutes (he takes his bike instead of his car sometimes, weather permitting), and it really makes a difference in our quality of life. I said above how I am not sure we do trains that well in this country!! We live 35 miles south of he district. Since your boss wants you to stay late, maybe youll miss the bulk of the evening traffic. No thanks! Perhaps this has been suggested already, but can you move closer to your job? No matter how I adjusted it was still awful. I still feel like Im going to die every time I drive anywhere on 95 at any time down here. Nope. One parent leaves for work earlier so he or she can leave work early enough to pick up the kid. The difference was really that my commute usually had just a quick moment of traffic right by my office (government office surrounded by lots of other government offices, with thousands of people all leaving at the same time), and his was about 20 miles closer, but stop and go the whole way! HOUSTON (AP) A former suburban Houston police officer was set to be executed Tuesday for hiring two people to kill his estranged wife nearly 30 years ago. There wasnt really anything heated in that series, and the narrator had great range (different voices for surly teenager to old mother goose). You listen to KCRW or podcasts and eventually adjust. 4) See if you boss will allow a much later arrival when it rains. Also, Metro is beefing up security on lines and I would always see sherriffs on board checking fares. There are jobs worth moving, even in the same town, for. How long does everyone commute daily? 37 traffic lights, multiple school zones. It would be one thing if you lived in Redondo or Fullerton, as there are side streets to get you there if the freeway is f*cked, but 405 just isnt worth it if youre not making a killing at your job. Some folks could handle this and would be fine, and others are not okay with this sort of commute. And then the housing is even more expensive. MERCED? X-D. Oh dear god, you commute up from Long Beach?!? On weekends its only $10.00 for a metrolink day pass that gets me all the way there and back on metrolink trains and also the metro in Los Angeles. . I dont know how people drive standards here ;). Did you regularly see a raccoon fighting a snake over the squirrel the snake was eating while a dear just happened to walk by? Most of my friends live 25-30 miles north, so I see them on the weekends or evenings when I can do the drive sans traffic. A couple of my team members fly in for half the week from LA or San Diego. But I will say that routinely taking 2 hours to go only 30 miles is unusual sometimes, sure, but 4 days out of 5 iskind of whacked. It really helped me rule out some areas that were lovely and that I had enjoyed visiting on weekends but were misery to get to after work. Veterinary Technician. Also a New Yorker. I am in Orange County and it takes me anywhere from 35 minutes to over an hour to drive 14 miles. For more tech tips, news, and updates visit - CraigPeterson.com . Eventually I was able to transition into working from home most of the time, and then I was laid off. 8.67 miles/hour. *Avoid Baxter Street in Echo Park its crazy steep. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. I think you need to try to find something more manageable and not feel bad about it. About 15 miles away and it always took more than an hour. I use The Woodlands Express and i always get home in an hour or less! I am all for better public transportation infrastructure my coworkers are used to my bemoaning the USs lack of a functional train system whenever I have to book a plane, shuttle, and car for a 400 mile business trip :) I am totally prepared to be an early adopter of self-driving cars though as soon as there are safe options I can afford. Yeah that is the thing for me. I learned that I was not cut out for that kind of commute. I live in the SFV, two major freeways are short drives away. I just want to point out that normal doesnt mean anything if youre suffering so much. We looked at rent in the bay area (my wife was thinking about applying for some companies there) and noped out. If you do move, give some thought to what would happen if traffic gets worse or patterns change, especially if youre buying property and couldnt move again easily. I would *hate* that. Orange County comes up in a search for LA in idealist.org, so I didnt even realize it wasnt the same as LA. long in miles, loooong in traffic. Sorry :(. I tell my guests to do Westside things (beach, Getty) on one day and Eastside things (Hollywood, Griffith Observatory) on a different day. My brother has a 50 minute commute, but its on highways and country roads with no traffic, to the next town over. This seems not-that-abnormal based on things my southern CA based friends have said about their commutes. Not only was it long and tiring, since it was public transportation, I was always stressed out about whether a leg of the trip was going to get messed up, thus throwing off the entire thing. A friend posted a listing for the house next door to her in a nice neighborhood in the DC area yesterday the same house here would be 1.5-2 x the price, and would be on a much smaller lot. Thats below 15 mph the entire way. I took it just to go visit someone. I learned that I am not good with long commutes so I have always chosen to live fairly close to where I work (in the same town). I bet you ten bucks they live in the valley, work on the other side of the mountains, and have to take the 405. The average commute in the UK is around 59 minutes per day (both ways combined). Ive always thought it would be awesome to be able to walk to work! It is working for us because most of the commute is on public transit. 2 hours is totally normal and expected for a trip like this in rush hour. If I lived in a more metropolitan area I wouldnt mind a 1-2 hour commute on mass transit because there would be less stress (not navigating traffic) and I could feasibly check work emails or do anything else on my phone. Saying that, Im happy to abandon working with my other half if my job application for a job 15 minutes from home is successful ! Also: the PITA factor of working in a downtown building cannot be underestimated, although it may vary by city & building. There is no reason why you should accept this commute as part of your life. It surprises me a bit that you didnt encounter people with bad commutes in New York. Distance in miles is not how the commute is measured in LA/OC, and a 2-hour commute could be entirely normal based on where you live. It ends right at Union Station, so you can connect to any of the other lines that head out into the rest of LA. I choose to drive. If I left after 4 it was definitely going to take at least 2-3 hours. Just because our public transit options in the Bay Area are better than the ones in LA doesnt mean our public transit options are actually good, though! When I worked (and lived, lucky me) in Fremont CA, pretty much everyone else that I knew who worked there had a totally garbage commute because housing there is so ridiculous. Is it an hour today? For me it is just too much time to spend in a car every day, and OP at 2 hours each way even if everybody else is doing it I think you really have the right to feel that way too! Im currently in NYC and was previously in Atlanta, both notoriously big cities with bad traffic. When I had a job in the San Fernando Valley the commute was fine because the traffic went in the opposite direction. I definitely think the key is less what does everyone in this area think is normal and more what am I willing to accept as part of my daily life. By bus (three buses total) it takes an hour. Commuters into NYC from NJ could have a 1.5-2 hour commute (I have), but its usually all on public transit, so you at least get that time to read/sleep/whatever. I need to take a bus (7 miles) to reach either of those. Ah, Id never go back to this huge commute. oops, replied in the wrong place, but at least it sorta fits here! I have a 2 hour commute into Boston; I live in Providence. My prefferred way south was always PCH. I definitely have one of the longer commutes in my office but there are a growing number of us who have it. Most of it is interstate driving. (The other big difference is that NYC is built on ground well suited to subways, where LA is built on geologically unstable, wet sand. Oh and the surrounding areas that are between my home and LA lets just say Im not out to gentrify those plots. Only to commiserate. Any reason. It is making me miserable, therefore I am going to (look for another job closer to home, look for a place closer to work, move back to New York, something else that addresses the problem)., (Also your boyfriend constantly insisting that something you hate is normal is a preeeetty big red flag to me. Stay around the work area if it looks unbearable. Youre not crazy. There are vanpools that leave as early as 5 AM to beat the traffic in, and most leave around 3:30 to beat the traffic home. Go to Nottingham (don't commute) Go to Holloway (commute) A jsuch01 I am going to uni in sep, and i am considering commuting 2 hours, each trip, to my uni. So while I think theres a few factors contributing here, I think its perfectly OK to not WANT a two-hour commute, and to figure out how to make your life easier on yourself. Hot, muggy, smoggy, YUCK. We had to carpool (one care) and it was fine most of the time, but if something came up, the logistics got complicated. What is it that slows people down? In LA its particularly important to live in a neighborhood thats not awful for getting to your job and other things you do on a regular basis. How long is too long to commute? Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. If I took the metro, the trip would be more expensive though it would take approximately the same amount of time, and I wouldnt be able to sleep and the process wouldnt be as pleasant: the commuter train has outlets at each seat, a bathroom or two, and food and drinks are allowed (even adult beverages if you are not disruptive). There are plenty of routes you can take in LA to get from point A to point B. I dont think it necessarily was, though. I kept telling them that it doesnt matter. (In a perfect world where there were adequate sidewalks, I was in good enough physical health, etc. Human drivers lack the coordination and have too high reaction time to pull this off, so things inefficiently grind to a halt of roads. I used to drive for almost 2hrs to get to Uni some days and it honestly wasn't that bad. Now. How is it a gaslight? Never again. 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